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Israel-Palestine, stained by 'apologists' & 'appeasers' (& what we can do about it)

Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 11:05:58 PM PDT

To observers of the Middle East and Palestine, the inept 'warfare' is matched by poor words.  Year after year, a constant barrage of rhetoric is as misguided as the bullets, mortars, and rockets.

A recent exchange of civilian casualties illustrates insanity.  To begin, or respond, or continue things (you choose depending on your religion) Hamas showcased ability to blindly fire a mortar, striking a paint factory and killing a 52 year worker.  In turn, Israeli helicopters targeted Hamas militants, but the missile missed and killed an 8 year old girl.

Rather than apologize, spokesmen aped the other side and appeased their own thugs.  Hamas said the operation was response to "nonstop agression against our people."  Not to be outdone, an Israeli spokesman said Hamas "would be held accountable".  Despite the lack of logic suggesting that paint is a tool of "aggression", or that the 8 year old was "accountable" for the mortar attack, neither side blinked at the contradictions.

In an election with the Middle East dominating foreign policy debate, how can Obama confront the 'apologist' and 'appeasement' tags in a region that has no concept of owning up and each side appeases only their own thugs?  Could withdrawing aid make them both sorry?        

Poll

Should US aid to Israel and Palestine be tied to peace settlement?

22%4 votes
27%5 votes
5%1 votes
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| 18 votes | Vote | Results

The Israel-Palestinian Conflict isn't worth discussing.

Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 10:49:32 PM PDT

Sure, you can teach or write about it, but to have a civil discussion about the P-I situation with people who've more or less made up their mind is out of the question unless you want a shouting match.

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Should the P-I Conflict just stop being debated?

13%3 votes
22%5 votes
4%1 votes
59%13 votes

| 22 votes | Vote | Results

AIPAC Burned Down Darcy Burner's House (& other myths of Progressive dissension over Israel)

Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:32:23 AM PDT

The other day a Kos diarist voiced suspicions that AIPAC might have had something to do with a fire that destroyed the home Blue Dem congressional candidate Darcy Burner.  The fire appears to have in fact been electrical in origin.


http://www.nwcn.com/...

What struck me was the bitterness of many of the comments on the diary, which I believe reflect deep tensions within the Kos community, and in the larger progressive world, about how we ought to feel about Israel, and Israeli influence in the US.  

Poll

US Policy toward Israel

12%9 votes
38%27 votes
16%12 votes
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18%13 votes

| 71 votes | Vote | Results

Strike on Iran would be "extremely stressful" for US forces.

Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 02:35:47 AM PDT

Says Adm Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

... he warned that opening up a third front, after Iraq and Afghanistan, would be "extremely stressful, very challenging, with consequences that would be difficult to predict".

It seems there is some push back going on at the top. Past patterns would suggest that we can expect Adm Mullen's reignation in the not too distant future.

Poll

Iran will be attacked this year?

55%38 votes
44%31 votes

| 69 votes | Vote | Results

If Israel attacks Iran, what are the implications for Obama?

Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 01:33:58 AM PDT

The saber rattling continues. Bush's latest visit to the Middle East has agitated energy prices and world fears of yet another war with Israel bombing Iran.

It appears the next president is going to be saddled with the problem of dealing with the fallout of Israel's airstrikes against Iran.

Poll

Israel attacking Iran benefits who?

10%7 votes
28%19 votes
32%22 votes
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| 67 votes | Vote | Results

Obama & Hillary-The Difference

Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 09:45:32 AM PDT

I have been reading the recent entries about Obama about how the liberals are supposed to get his back and how it is of utmost (and only) importance to win back the White House etc. etc. And I think I might agree with one of them (the winning part) 100%. One think, though, stands out to me is the gradual thinning of line of difference between HRC and BHO.

More after the Jump..

Hey Y’all Watch This!

Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 09:26:11 AM PDT

Hey Y’all Watch This!
By David Glenn Cox

When did you stop beating your wife? When will you prove yourself innocent? When will you stop lying? When will you produce the murder weapon? All of these statements presuppose guilt and had this prolonged campaign against Iran not mimicked the prolonged campaign against Iraq it would be easy enough excuse the surreal nature of it all. The Alice through the looking glass, world turned upside down flavor to it of the leader who hasn’t invaded anyone cast as the next Hitler by the nation occupying two foreign countries by force of arms.

Rampage in Jerusalem

Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 07:02:56 AM PDT

Today a resident of East Jerusalem plowed a bulldozer into the crowed streets of Jerusalem.  This incident caused 3 deaths and over 30 injuries to bystanders.  

The Video The Jewish lobby Didn't Want You To See

Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 02:24:33 AM PDT

I stumbled upon this U tube video on the implications of the US blind support for Israel and how it goes against US foreign national interests. It's a 50 min piece but worth the watch. I think a lot of us here already know this, but at least what was striking to me is the connection between AIPAC and the neocons in the Bush admin and bushes decision to invade Iraq all with serious implications. This is an example of how blind and costly in the form US blood. I'm not arguing that AIPAC was the only reason Bush invaded Iraq that would not be true, but the Israel lobby had been very influential push into this debacle. More recently you can hear the voices again of the Israel lobby pushing for military action in Iran. The question is when will the US citizenry wake up.

Poll

U.S. - Israel policy as it stands...

12%16 votes
53%71 votes
15%20 votes
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| 132 votes | Vote | Results

IDF fatally shoots Palestinian youth in Beit Ummar

Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 03:37:36 PM PDT

Five months after the incidents in Beit Ummar subsequent to the death of the Sabarna cousins (diaried here and here), once again a teenager has been killed by the IDF and the IDF's presence at the funeral has led to the injury of more Palestinians.  Bekah Wolf of the Palestine Solidarity Project, located in Beit Ummar, gives background for the incident:

Committee to Protect Journalists...doesn't

Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 01:39:09 PM PDT

The Committee to Protect Journalists has a fine-sounding name, but, like the even more scurrilous CIA-linked Reporters Without Borders (who trade on the respected name of Doctors Without Borders to ply their anti-communist agenda), their priorities have rather strong biases. On June 26, Palestinian journalist Mohammed Omer, a frequent guest reporter on KPFA's Flashpoints and Pacifica's Democracy Now!, was returning from receiving a prestigious journalism prize in Britain, when he was attacked, abused, and tortured by Israeli border agents as he attempted to re-enter Gaza. The attack received limited press coverage (Reuters), but has been largely ignored in the West.

Why Progressives Should Support the Naval Blockade of Iran

Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 03:54:49 PM PDT

Because these are the Democratic sponsors of the resolution, that's why:

Sponsor: Sen. Evan Bayh [D-IN]
Sen. Maria Cantwell [D-WA]
Sen. Robert Casey [D-PA]
Sen. Kent Conrad [D-ND]
Sen. Amy Klobuchar [D-MN]
Sen. Barbara Mikulski [D-MD]
Sen. Patty Murray [D-WA]
Sen. Ron Wyden [D-OR]

Our goal is to elect more Democrats, is it not?

More on the flip

Updated with analysis: How Bush will steal the 2008 election

Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 11:44:03 AM PDT

I didn't believe it at first, but after several people I know have voiced their concerns, I am now unable to ignore the possibility.

Bush will attack Iran before the end of his term.

All of this distraction over Barack has allowed the MSM to ignore the biggest story in the country right now . . .

Poll

Will Bush attack Iran?

0%2 votes
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16%38 votes
12%28 votes
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5%13 votes
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| 229 votes | Vote | Results

Shocking? Heathlander and another American agree on I-P Peace Plan. Poll

Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 09:06:44 AM PDT

Reading I-P discussions confirms James Carroll's observation that "no question is more polarized than" the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Accordingly, it may be worth taking note that two active I=P discussants -- Heathlander and I -- despite opposite primary sympathies, agree on (what Heathlander recently called) the essential embodiment of a peace settlement, namely, the Geneva-Accord, a joint Israeli-Palestinian model peace treaty, agreed in October 2003 by senior Israeli and Palestinian figures.

Please read on

There is a partner.  There is a plan.

Poll

Do you support the Geneva Accord as the basis for a definitive peace settlement between Israel and Palestine?

62%15 votes
37%9 votes

| 24 votes | Vote | Results

Great News: Arabs Generally Happy in Israel

Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 08:53:33 AM PDT

A recent opinion poll conducted by Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government found that 77 percent of Israeli Arabs would rather live in Israel than in any other country in the world.

The survey of 1,721 Israelis, both Arab and Jewish, also showed that 73 percent of the Jews and 94 percent of the Arabs want Israel to "be a society in which Arab and Jewish citizens have mutual respect and equal opportunities."

The Kennedy School said in a statement that the poll produced a number of results it termed surprising, pointing to a higher level of co-existence than might have been anticipated

Professor Todd Pittinsky, research director of the Kennedy School's Center for Public Leadership and lead researcher for the poll, said that the results pointed to a contrary phenomenon. Much media coverage focuses on the divisions between Jewish and Arab citizens in Israel, and not enough on the sincere and concerted efforts to coexist peacefully, Pittinsky said in a statement.

In addition, a whopping 68 percent of Jewish citizens support teaching conversational Arabic in Jewish schools to engender co-existance.

In a mere 6 Months, Bush can leave us with a new disaster in Iran...

Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 06:00:34 AM PDT

The press is only beginning to pay attention to Sy Hersh's articles in the New Yorker detailing the secret moves against Iran being carried out by the Bush Administration, and, more specifically, by the Cheney office's influence over that Administration.

Yale Professor David Bromwich wrote in the Huffington Post:

In late 2007, after winning an election whose central issue was a more prudent and rational policy in the Middle East, congressional Democrats, obedient to the wishes of a Presidential Finding, signed away $400 million for secret operations against Iran. A more craven act of submission would be hard to imagine; and they did this in the glow of victory, in direct contradiction of their mandate. What were they signing for? Sabotage, assassination, covert support for political clients and "destabilization" generally are predictable parts of such a design; but the Democrats, in the months between their capitulation and Hersh's article, made no mention of dissatisfactions at having been cut off from oversight. The truth seems to be that in this area, as in so many others, only the Office of the Vice President oversees the Office of the President.

The Price of Poker (And Oil) Goes Up.

Sun Jun 29, 2008 at 07:25:47 PM PDT

"Iran has moved ballistic missiles into launch positions," according to the London Sunday Times,

The movement of Shahab-3B missiles, which have an estimated range of more than 1,250 miles, followed a large-scale exercise earlier this month in which the Israeli air force flew en masse over the Mediterranean in an apparent rehearsal for a threatened attack on Iran’s nuclear installations.

The launch stations are positioned for a strike on Israel.

Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Commander Major General Mohammad-Ali Jafari cautioned, during an interview Saturday, on Iranian television that:

"Israel is located entirely within the reach of our missiles. Our missile power is such that the Zionist regime, despite all its capabilities, would not be able to confront us."

Jafari went on to state that, in the event of attack, Iran could not choose to do otherwise than

The quickly-approaching light; time to change our agenda.

Sun Jun 29, 2008 at 01:23:28 PM PDT

The quickly-approaching light at the end of our tunnel this election cycle is a turbocharged, nuclear-powered locomotive, the likes of which we've never seen. It will arrive at our station well before we cast our votes in November.

The headlines of the past 48 hours spell it all out (see below the fold). Unfortunately, many of those headlines were with regard to stories published outside the U.S.

Unbeknownst to the majority of U.S. society, due to a total lack of responsible reporting of the facts by the MSM, it is now self-evident to this diarist that the sky really is falling.


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